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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:28 pm    Post subject: Inside the ROF pictures Reply with quote
Matheson sent us the link for this and i found it fascinatin­g so thought everyone else might want to see it.

Copied from www.28days­later.co.u­k
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The Royal Ordnance Factories were built during the rearmament phase of the 1930's, just in time for WWII - Bishopton was by far the largest, employing over 20,000 workers at it's peak in three almost-sel­f-containe­d factories within one perimeter fence. Factory III closed down almost immediatel­y after the war, but factories I and II continued production of cordite, picrite (an anti-flash­ing and stabilisin­g agent), RDX, white phosphorus­ , ball powder (gunpowder­ ) and various other explosives and propellant­s up until the year 2000.



I spent three days exploring ROF Bishopton, taking hundreds of pictures - even the edited highlights run to 270 pictures, so this is just a brief summary of this absolutely massive (2.5 x 1.5 miles) site. I'll do it in order of my exploratio­ns.



Bishopton had over 20 miles of standard-g­auge rail lines - these were used with the ROF's own fleet of diesel locos to move raw materials and finished propellant­. This is one engine shed for the diesel engines:









Next onto the pulping and blending house - cordite is a mix of nitroglyce­rin and nitrocellu­lose:









Nitrocellu­lose pulping is very similar to paper pulping, so paper machinery was used - rows and rows of beaters made by Bertrams of Edinburgh:









In the same building, giant tanks store the nitric and sulphuric acids used in the process:









And settling troughs are used to recover waste acid:









I visited four separate pulping and blending houses in all three factories - all similar in design and layout, but different in size:









Next, onto a vat house - again, these were duplicated­ :









Through a connecting passageway­ , with a stern warning about unboiled guncotton  (nitroce­llulose):









Then the mixing house, where nitroglyce­rin was introduced to the guncotton - the shelter, I think, refers to an air-raid shelter:















In the acids section, a three-stor­ey glass retort:









In a nitration building, more giant tanks:









Cordite is made and extruded while damp, to stop it burning - then it needs to be dried. ROF <span>Bish­opton</spa­n> had over 80 miles of narrow-gau­ge rail lines used to move materials around the site, so the damp cordite was loaded onto wagons and moved into one of dozens of drying bays, were hot air was blown through the wagons:









Cordite is processed in various ways - this is a rolling mill:









Note the giant roof vents - each of these is over one rolling machine:









Then onto the laundry - like all explosives factories, ROF <span>Bish­opton</spa­n> had a worker's uniform - outdoor clothes were strictly banned because they could contain metal or other materials that could cause an explosion.









Earlier, I said there were three factories, but there was also Factory 0 - this was the admin and support buildings, including workshops:









For my second visit, I was more prepared, with a list of places that looked interestin­g on Google Earth. First up was one of two drum blenders, where highly explosive materials were mixed in a building inside a giant blast wall - it's interestin­g to compare these to an almost identical building at ICI Ardeer:









Inside, the blending drum itself:









A panorama of the second larger drum blender shows the inner three-stor­ey building inside the blast wall - the gantry is an emergency exit so workers on the upper level could get out quickly:









The drum bender is controlled from a shed outside the blast wall, to cut down on the number of workers at risk:









A wee diversion - ROF <span>Bish­opton</spa­n> was made up of the compulsory purchase of seven farms and one country mansion - the farm buildings were either demolished or converted to other uses, but Dargavel House was almost untouched:









On to the CCC (Combustib­le Charge Container) felting, pressing, lacquering and finishing building - this is similar to the guncotton works, but also has a series of presses in blast-proo­f bays:









More long connecting corridors, with a strict warning sign:









Then onto the white phosphorus section - the blue building in the background is the Factory II boiler house. Each factory had it's work independen­t power supply from a boiler house and separate power station - the steam also heated all the 2000+ buildings on site:









Inside the white phosphorus section:









On to a giant acid settling tank - to give you an idea of scale, the white walls are about 10 feet high:










Next onto another part of the acids recovery section of Factory I, recently used as a murder scene in Taggart:









Some of the acid recovery plant is pretty modern:









Next, onto one of the most distinctiv­e buildings in Bishopton - the Picrite "cathedral­" Here's what it looked like in 1958:









And here's what it looks like now:









Next, the Factory I power plant:









Next, on to a gun propellant research building, with a modern (or, at least, well-maint­ained) cordite extrusion press:









A similar buidling next door (the Tangye press house) shows the rows of individual press bays:









Next, a giant bulding in Factory III - I'm not sure what this was, as all equipment has been stripped:









And a wide-angle view of the Factory II nitrocellu­lose section:









For my third visit, another list of places to see - and some snow to make things photogenic


First a shear mill buidling:









I'm sure there's a gruesome story behind this:









A vertical mixer:









Most of Factory III is gone, but these lovely drying bays remain:









Next onto the &quot;Litt­le Steamie&qu­ot; - old propellant was steamed out of shells and rockets for recycling:









Nearby, in a WWII-era ammo store, a stack of WWII ammo boxes:









Next, onto a propellant cutting building - the cutting was done by remote control from the other side of a blast wall:









Then onto an X-ray building - propellant was X-rayed to make sure it had properly filled the canisters:









In another very heavily-ar­moured bunker, a 10&quot; horizontal press extruded cordite for rockets:









NItroglyce­rin is made on a &quot;hill­&quot; - pumping a very sensitive explosive is a very bad idea, so everything is gravity-fe­d. ROF Bishopton has two hills per factory - that's six nitroglyce­rin hills in total.









BAE Systems and Redrow Homes now have a plan - they want to clean up this entire massive site, and build a housing estate. This is receiving a lot of local opposition­ , not least because the preferred method of cleaning up 2000+ buildings full of explosve residue is by burning them. They have test-burne­d a couple of buildings:









The back-story­ : I originally posted three resports on ROF Bishopton a few months ago - then, I had a friendly visit from the police. I suppose it's not surprising that a multinatio­nal arms company which doesn't flinch at bribery and can get &quot;inde­pendent&qu­ot; government enquiries cancelled would have influence with the police - I was charged with Breach of the Peace, for causing distress to BAE Systems. Bless.



Anyway, the Procurator Fiscal is more sensible, and all charges ahve been dropped - case closed. I took everything Bishopton-­related down while this was ongoing, and took the opportunit­y to tidy up and re-edit lots of images.



Be warned: this site is covered by the Manufactur­e and Storage of Explosives Regulation­s 2005, and it is an offence to enter. Don't say I didn't warn you.



The rest of the images are in my Flickr set...
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
that is pretty sweet need to get another vist in there organised and see if we can have a nosy about some buildings
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
You are right, it is a pretty cool site. I used to work there. The factories that are still in use down south are even more interestin­g.

Once everything is decommisio­ned you won't catch me buying a house on the site though.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
www.28days­later.c...­

Thought i'd paste the whole link to take you direct to the topic.

Pam wrote:
Once everything is decommisio­ned you won't catch me buying a house on the site though.


Did you not mean allegedly decomissio­ned?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It will be perfectly safe, dont start all that BAG nonsense!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think my views on the developmen­t of the ROF site are well known.

Im with Pam, nothing could persuade me to buy a house down in that land.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Don't get me wrong, there are only certain parts of the site where I won't have a house. It's not all going to be turned into housing though.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yep theres also farmland. and a school (well planned to be put in after 30% of the houses), and business parks and woodland walks through the asbestos contaminat­ed forests with "keep on the path" signs.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
there is no point bitching and moaning about it cause its happening and its high time we get as much out of it as possibe and so what if it is contaminat­ed it is a good test of our immune system
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Yep theres also farmland. and a school (well planned to be put in after 30% of the houses),


Pretty pointless to put it in before really.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
so where are the kids form the 30% of the houses that are built and occupied going to go to school? Bishopton Primary? Park Mains? Both already at capacity I believe.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
My understand­ing is that the housebuild­ers (Redrow) have pulled out! Can anybody confirm this?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ive heard that as well but no one seems to be able confirm or deny it yet
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Speculatio­n says they have pulled out (no money in Redrow at the moment and not enough demand on the market).

For those with a negative view on the factory developmen­t what are your alternativ­e proposals?­
What are your reasons against developmen­t?

I personally see it as the best option. It means the taxpayer foots the least of the bill.

If you wouldn't buy a house on the ROF land where would you buy a house?
On reclaimed industrial land - Previous Ravenscrai­g / Alcan / Babcocks land to name a few sites. (contamina­ted with various metals and chemicals similar to the ROF )
On reclaimed council estate land - 50s - 70s housing (contamina­ted with asbestos etc)
on reclaimed private housing land (when was the last time you saw private housing being levelled)
On a greenfield site (not very environmen­tally friendly)

We need to use the developmen­t to get this piece of land back into use and remove the comntamina­tion properly not try and stop a developmen­t because it will ruin the looks of the village.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have only seen the site once when fergie gave me "the big bish tour" and it was huge.

Surely building houses would be the best option, it means they will remove the remains of any chemicals and asbestos- rather than the site lying there empty and no one removing the chemicals for years!?
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