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fergie David Woodrow

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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:28 pm Post subject: Inside the ROF pictures |
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Matheson sent us the link for this and i found it fascinating so thought everyone else might want to see it.
Copied from www.28dayslater.co.uk
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The Royal Ordnance Factories were built during the rearmament phase of the 1930's, just in time for WWII - Bishopton was by far the largest, employing over 20,000 workers at it's peak in three almost-self-contained factories within one perimeter fence. Factory III closed down almost immediately after the war, but factories I and II continued production of cordite, picrite (an anti-flashing and stabilising agent), RDX, white phosphorus , ball powder (gunpowder ) and various other explosives and propellants up until the year 2000.
I spent three days exploring ROF Bishopton, taking hundreds of pictures - even the edited highlights run to 270 pictures, so this is just a brief summary of this absolutely massive (2.5 x 1.5 miles) site. I'll do it in order of my explorations.
Bishopton had over 20 miles of standard-gauge rail lines - these were used with the ROF's own fleet of diesel locos to move raw materials and finished propellant. This is one engine shed for the diesel engines:
Next onto the pulping and blending house - cordite is a mix of nitroglycerin and nitrocellulose:
Nitrocellulose pulping is very similar to paper pulping, so paper machinery was used - rows and rows of beaters made by Bertrams of Edinburgh:
In the same building, giant tanks store the nitric and sulphuric acids used in the process:
And settling troughs are used to recover waste acid:
I visited four separate pulping and blending houses in all three factories - all similar in design and layout, but different in size:
Next, onto a vat house - again, these were duplicated :
Through a connecting passageway , with a stern warning about unboiled guncotton (nitrocellulose):
Then the mixing house, where nitroglycerin was introduced to the guncotton - the shelter, I think, refers to an air-raid shelter:
In the acids section, a three-storey glass retort:
In a nitration building, more giant tanks:
Cordite is made and extruded while damp, to stop it burning - then it needs to be dried. ROF <span>Bishopton</span> had over 80 miles of narrow-gauge rail lines used to move materials around the site, so the damp cordite was loaded onto wagons and moved into one of dozens of drying bays, were hot air was blown through the wagons:
Cordite is processed in various ways - this is a rolling mill:
Note the giant roof vents - each of these is over one rolling machine:
Then onto the laundry - like all explosives factories, ROF <span>Bishopton</span> had a worker's uniform - outdoor clothes were strictly banned because they could contain metal or other materials that could cause an explosion.
Earlier, I said there were three factories, but there was also Factory 0 - this was the admin and support buildings, including workshops:
For my second visit, I was more prepared, with a list of places that looked interesting on Google Earth. First up was one of two drum blenders, where highly explosive materials were mixed in a building inside a giant blast wall - it's interesting to compare these to an almost identical building at ICI Ardeer:
Inside, the blending drum itself:
A panorama of the second larger drum blender shows the inner three-storey building inside the blast wall - the gantry is an emergency exit so workers on the upper level could get out quickly:
The drum bender is controlled from a shed outside the blast wall, to cut down on the number of workers at risk:
A wee diversion - ROF <span>Bishopton</span> was made up of the compulsory purchase of seven farms and one country mansion - the farm buildings were either demolished or converted to other uses, but Dargavel House was almost untouched:
On to the CCC (Combustible Charge Container) felting, pressing, lacquering and finishing building - this is similar to the guncotton works, but also has a series of presses in blast-proof bays:
More long connecting corridors, with a strict warning sign:
Then onto the white phosphorus section - the blue building in the background is the Factory II boiler house. Each factory had it's work independent power supply from a boiler house and separate power station - the steam also heated all the 2000+ buildings on site:
Inside the white phosphorus section:
On to a giant acid settling tank - to give you an idea of scale, the white walls are about 10 feet high:
Next onto another part of the acids recovery section of Factory I, recently used as a murder scene in Taggart:
Some of the acid recovery plant is pretty modern:
Next, onto one of the most distinctive buildings in Bishopton - the Picrite "cathedral" Here's what it looked like in 1958:
And here's what it looks like now:
Next, the Factory I power plant:
Next, on to a gun propellant research building, with a modern (or, at least, well-maintained) cordite extrusion press:
A similar buidling next door (the Tangye press house) shows the rows of individual press bays:
Next, a giant bulding in Factory III - I'm not sure what this was, as all equipment has been stripped:
And a wide-angle view of the Factory II nitrocellulose section:
For my third visit, another list of places to see - and some snow to make things photogenic First a shear mill buidling:
I'm sure there's a gruesome story behind this:
A vertical mixer:
Most of Factory III is gone, but these lovely drying bays remain:
Next onto the "Little Steamie" - old propellant was steamed out of shells and rockets for recycling:
Nearby, in a WWII-era ammo store, a stack of WWII ammo boxes:
Next, onto a propellant cutting building - the cutting was done by remote control from the other side of a blast wall:
Then onto an X-ray building - propellant was X-rayed to make sure it had properly filled the canisters:
In another very heavily-armoured bunker, a 10" horizontal press extruded cordite for rockets:
NItroglycerin is made on a "hill" - pumping a very sensitive explosive is a very bad idea, so everything is gravity-fed. ROF Bishopton has two hills per factory - that's six nitroglycerin hills in total.
BAE Systems and Redrow Homes now have a plan - they want to clean up this entire massive site, and build a housing estate. This is receiving a lot of local opposition , not least because the preferred method of cleaning up 2000+ buildings full of explosve residue is by burning them. They have test-burned a couple of buildings:
The back-story : I originally posted three resports on ROF Bishopton a few months ago - then, I had a friendly visit from the police. I suppose it's not surprising that a multinational arms company which doesn't flinch at bribery and can get "independent" government enquiries cancelled would have influence with the police - I was charged with Breach of the Peace, for causing distress to BAE Systems. Bless.
Anyway, the Procurator Fiscal is more sensible, and all charges ahve been dropped - case closed. I took everything Bishopton-related down while this was ongoing, and took the opportunity to tidy up and re-edit lots of images.
Be warned: this site is covered by the Manufacture and Storage of Explosives Regulations 2005, and it is an offence to enter. Don't say I didn't warn you.
The rest of the images are in my Flickr set... _________________ ______|FERGIE|ŻŻŻŻŻŻ |
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big gus Cub
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:26 am Post subject: |
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| that is pretty sweet need to get another vist in there organised and see if we can have a nosy about some buildings |
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Pam David Woodrow

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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:57 am Post subject: |
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You are right, it is a pretty cool site. I used to work there. The factories that are still in use down south are even more interesting.
Once everything is decommisioned you won't catch me buying a house on the site though. |
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Bruce Site Administrator

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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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www.28dayslater.c...
Thought i'd paste the whole link to take you direct to the topic.
| Pam wrote: | | Once everything is decommisioned you won't catch me buying a house on the site though. |
Did you not mean allegedly decomissioned? _________________ DEE 4 LIFE
If your feeling seasick, go and stand under a tree. |
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Matty Site Administrator

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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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It will be perfectly safe, dont start all that BAG nonsense! _________________ Site Administrator
My Blog: http://www.mhewitson.net
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these periods, i call "hangovers"
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Gillian David Woodrow
 Joined: 15 Apr 2002 Posts: 602 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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I think my views on the development of the ROF site are well known.
Im with Pam, nothing could persuade me to buy a house down in that land. _________________ Find the courage to be yourself,
if you dont,
no-one else will. |
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Pam David Woodrow

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Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Don't get me wrong, there are only certain parts of the site where I won't have a house. It's not all going to be turned into housing though. |
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Gillian David Woodrow
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Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Yep theres also farmland. and a school (well planned to be put in after 30% of the houses), and business parks and woodland walks through the asbestos contaminated forests with "keep on the path" signs. _________________ Find the courage to be yourself,
if you dont,
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big gus Cub
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:15 am Post subject: |
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| there is no point bitching and moaning about it cause its happening and its high time we get as much out of it as possibe and so what if it is contaminated it is a good test of our immune system |
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Matty Site Administrator

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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Gillian wrote: | | Yep theres also farmland. and a school (well planned to be put in after 30% of the houses), |
Pretty pointless to put it in before really. _________________ Site Administrator
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these periods, i call "hangovers"
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Gillian David Woodrow
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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so where are the kids form the 30% of the houses that are built and occupied going to go to school? Bishopton Primary? Park Mains? Both already at capacity I believe. _________________ Find the courage to be yourself,
if you dont,
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Bruce Site Administrator

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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:53 am Post subject: |
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My understanding is that the housebuilders (Redrow) have pulled out! Can anybody confirm this? _________________ DEE 4 LIFE
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Dewey AAC

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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:48 am Post subject: |
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Ive heard that as well but no one seems to be able confirm or deny it yet _________________ Thats what she said........... |
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Davie David Woodrow

 Joined: 17 Apr 2002 Posts: 748 Location: Bishopton
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:57 am Post subject: |
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Speculation says they have pulled out (no money in Redrow at the moment and not enough demand on the market).
For those with a negative view on the factory development what are your alternative proposals?
What are your reasons against development?
I personally see it as the best option. It means the taxpayer foots the least of the bill.
If you wouldn't buy a house on the ROF land where would you buy a house?
On reclaimed industrial land - Previous Ravenscraig / Alcan / Babcocks land to name a few sites. (contaminated with various metals and chemicals similar to the ROF )
On reclaimed council estate land - 50s - 70s housing (contaminated with asbestos etc)
on reclaimed private housing land (when was the last time you saw private housing being levelled)
On a greenfield site (not very environmentally friendly)
We need to use the development to get this piece of land back into use and remove the comntamination properly not try and stop a development because it will ruin the looks of the village. |
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kerry Explorer
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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I have only seen the site once when fergie gave me "the big bish tour" and it was huge.
Surely building houses would be the best option, it means they will remove the remains of any chemicals and asbestos- rather than the site lying there empty and no one removing the chemicals for years!? |
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